a warrant and on top of that, the nsa makes mistakes. it's difficult to know the origin. so purely domestic calls get put into this database as well. so as the acl said in our piece, huge numbers are swept up by what the nsa calls foreign surveillance -- >> but i think glen -- >> i mean, this is an important clarification that this is primarily targeted at international e-mails, not purely domestic e-mails. now, as glen points out, there may be mistakes, there may be a lot of excess. >> we have to trust people. we have to trust thousands of people they won't abuse it. edward snowden some would say abused it, others would say blew the whistle. somebody with a more malicious mind who happens to have that authorization could cause serious damage. >> they can't -- the other thing is you can't separate out -- >> sorry, james. >> you can't separate out domestic from international that cleanly. that's one of the kind of statements that the obama administration has made repeatedly that they can make these clean kind of divides, and that's just n